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Two republican lawmakers did not vouch for the president's policy background. >> do you feel confident in his real understanding of this issue? >> well, i get the sense that this issue is maybe not the president's wheelhouse, health care. i think, you know, he is much more focused on -- and a lot of like people in congress too. i'm not trying to be critical of the president. >> do you have confidence that the president understands the details -- >> i don't know if he does or not. >> rand paul said he and the president were working closely on the details on a path beyond the current stalemate. ...

He should be there and in fact, and previous administrations, people who had a lesser role, less of a policy role, often sat in on those meetings. it really was just to formalize it. there is nothing new there. i think that people who are reading the tea leaves and thinking, there is something revelation, there isn't. >> martha: >> martha: was it pro them and that way beforehand? we have reporting this morning from some of the joint chiefs saying that they were caught unaware of this and that i did catch them somewhat off guard. then, robert gates and michael payton waited in and they said it ...

Are people in line to be secretary of state who do not acknowledge that there's a problem with going to war in iraq? >> i think that there's a problem that the president of the united states has no policy background on whatsoever. i thought obama brought a lot of capable people into the key positions. that made it easier. didn't make it really easy because you still have people like valley jarrett around him who were gatekeeper. it made it harder to get things done. the case for trump, he's got congress. it's going to be republican senate, republican house. that makes it easier to get things d...

And that wasn't hype. not just in polls, but in perceptions. this is his last chance to show i know how to do this job. that's the bar for him. i think it's harder in a town hall. people think it is going to be easier because it is real people. i don't know where this confidence comes from. he has this magic touch with real people. do you believe the stakes are this high. >> people are already voting. it will start in more states very shortly. the second is the concerns that people have about donald trump, if he's qualified and that question stems from his temperament. this is absolutely the q...

Like we see out in texas today. as those issues come to the fore fore it will be tough for ben carson who has no policy background to speak of before now. that will be hard to get in this base but he's in the top ten and he may grow that. somebody who does have that experience bill clinton defending huge foreign donations to his family foundation. sounds like hillary who once claimed they were dead broke when they left the white house. >> any kind of disclosure is a target. and but it looks bad. there's no facts of course. but looks bad. i spent a couple hours a day just doing research. people...