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The reality is, if and when he starts running, don, he is second only to bernie sanders in having an incredibly formidable online fund-raising machine. and i think even though he's been, you know, sort of under the radar, that will probably kick in pretty quickly. >> so, do you think that's why he's gotten, as they call, so much free media, unearned media? he's on this cover of "vanity fair." there are people who have already declared, people who are very popular like kamala harris. >> absolutely. >> they don't have this kind of -- why him? >> he is a celebrity candidate. right now he is the c...

>> it was something special. >> i don't think you'd offer $100 to any other panelist, art. e.j., you were there that day as well. some of the things people writing about peter navarro and his views, the associated press quotes stephen moore says he and trump -- navarro and trump agree on an america first policy when it comes to trade and other issues so he's emerged as a policy force in this administration. other than him being able to impress donald trump on tv, i'm not sure what that means about his own policy views. he, himself, said this is the president's vision and so my function really ...