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Saying don't do this, you know, you have to pay attention, even if that president is donald trump and even if the decision is already made. enough of those phone calls and that just becomes a frkt. it becomes another data point. it becomes something that's in a ceo's mind that, okay, we're going to do this, or i'm going to get a phone call. or maybe there's another way to, you know, another way to handle the issue we're trying to deal with here. maybe we can compensate by creating some jobs in the u.s. that's ideally how this approach from trump will work out. we'll have to see. >> here's the ...

Inelegant in what he said, but i do think, if it's what's in his head and his hard, i would rather know that than not know that. but i want to play something is that i think illustrates the wrong way to talk about race. >> is there any accountability left in washington? are we supposed to hold the bar really low for president obama, simply because he's half black? >> i do not believe you are granted favorable treatment in this country because you are white. you have to work for success. >> rather than hammering down on zero tolerance policies and calling those racisracist, why t he have a call...

So, it's complicated issue, guys and one that i thought might come up after president obama was safely re-elected and it is. it's coming up. i think it's worth getting some of the issues out on the table. one, there are the humanitarian concerns, of course. hundreds if not thousands dead. many children, many innocent civilians. two, the legal issues. what's happening with due process here? how are we now killing sometimes american citizens without due process, without bringing them back charging them trying them that sort of thing? there's also the issue of hypocrisy. and now invisible anti-wa...

>> this was going to take place earlier but she had health issues. this is going to be a big spotlight on hillary clinton. you have a policy implication of who knew what when. did she talk to the president, did the president watch the video feed. did hillary clinton watch the video feed as this attack was going on. in the backdrop you have politics, you have 2016. a lot of people think hillary clinton will run, a lot of people want her on the democratic side to run. these are key hearings for hillary clinton. jon: you think this is not sort of the swan song of an outgoing secretary of state, t...

Be that you have this solid democratic constituency that is forged by that reform. i think you have a long-term policy implication and a long-term political implication in the short term. >> how do you get to the republican skeptic who says we tried a balanced approach back under reagan with simpson and the teeth were never used. all the good stuff was in there but none of the tougher stuff. how do you convince them there will be an enforcement mechanism which will be true to the purpose of the act that you pass? >> first of all, the simpson rizzoli act had a big loophole for employer sanction...