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Customers abroad. they're really struggling with high inflation, high interest rates so they're spending less money on chinese goods. if you're a policy—maker in beijing, well, it's difficult to say what you should do about. that you can't just force other countries to start buying more of your goods. but there's also more to contend with. if you look at the spending within china, that's also looking not very encouraging at the moment. tomorrow we're expecting some more figures to be coming out which will probably show deflation, prices actually going down in china. that's a bit more difficu...

>> given that, are you truly a republican now? or is it just politically expedient to be that now? >> so when i came into office, i came in as a democrat. i've been a democrat my entire life. that's all i knew. it wasn't until becoming a policy maker, actually looking at the policy, digging into the fine details that many people said, okay, you're actually not a democrat. you are a centrist, or a moderate. as a lay person, i had no idea that was such a thing. now i'm still a moderate and still a centrist but just on the republican side. >> you are up for re-election in 2024. and i do wonder wh...

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Are their which demonstrates they are leading to racial inequities. and disparities. and i think that's what we have to show. we have to demonstrate the outcome of these policies and be less focused on whether they have racial language or even the intent of the policy maker. >> you talk about the outcome. in california and in michigan, affirmative action was already outlawed for the public universities. in the 90s and in the early 2000s, actually. so black enrollment at top schools in those states plummeted. rapidly. it really was about 15%. so let's talk a bit about the broad long term conseq...