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Presidency and regardless of who is president, i want that president to succeed, because, if that president does not succeed the country pays the price. so what i would like to do is see president trump recognize the chaos and crisis that we're in right now. this period of tremendous instability, that is hurting the country, in terms of our security, and our economy. and takes steps, appoint a strong chief of staff, not just an acting chief of staff, appoint a strong secretary of defense. chris: right. >> abide by the policy-making process that is important to the white house. do what is neces...

Presidency and regardless of who is president, i want that president to succeed, because, if that president does not succeed the country pays the price. so what i would like to do is see president trump recognize the chaos and crisis that we're in right now. this period of tremendous instability, that is hurting the country, in terms of our security, and our economy. and takes steps, appoint a strong chief of staff, not just an acting chief of staff, appoint a strong secretary of defense. chris: right. >> abide by the policy-making process that is important to the white house. do what is neces...

Is president, i want that president to succeed, because, if that president does not succeed the country pays the price. so what i would like to do is see president trump recognize the chaos and crisis that we're in right now. this period of tremendous instability, that is hurting the country, in terms of our security, and our economy. and takes steps, appoint a strong chief of staff, not just an acting chief of staff, appoint a strong secretary of defense. chris: right. >> abide by the policy-making process that is important to the white house. do what is necessary to be a strong president in ...

When do you get to the point where you can't either do what your pos wants because it's illegal, unethical or immoral or you have major disagreements with it? and then you weigh the balance between continuing to contribute to the organization or saying, i'm gone. when a guy like mattis says he's gone, there's something dysfunctional. and there's a lot of things in this administration that are dysfunctional. you said to jim acosta a little while ago, the wheels have come off. the wheels have been off for a long time and we've been seeing sparks fly off the axle for as long as -- well, for a lon...

This administration that are dysfunctional. you said to jim acosta a little while ago, the wheels have come off. the wheels have been off for a long time and we've been seeing sparks fly off the axle for as long as -- well, for a long time. let's just put it that way. and this has got to change. the security of our nation is more important than these crazy, narcissistic moods of the president of the united states. >> jen, you spent a number of years in the obama administration. you know about the policymaking process, there are debates, discussions, proposals, tabled, considers, adjusted, deba...