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House and military perhaps at odds and the military trying to be respectful and not answer that directly. how do you think that plays out for other security issues? >> i don't think it plays out well. the administration, the president has made decisions that the military obviously disagrees with. he is the commander-in-chief. the policy making process at the white house is broken. after my article on thursday, the white house went out this past weekend and said we had 10 deputies meetings and ex number of meetings of the cabinet about the decision like we've had 15 meetings. well, this has bee...

Their lives for a cause that kept on changing, just as the four of you were saying. first it was to punish afghanistan for harboring al qaeda and causing the attacks of 9/11, then it became trying to help the people of afghanistan. then it became trying to create a greek democracy in afghanistan. all those things in the end were mistakes and if you were to ask any american 90 days ago why are we in afghanistan, they would have given the same answer most americans gave when lyndon johnson asked in 1968 why are we in vietnam. the answer we don't know and we don't think it is a great idea. >> kat...

Senate democrats often extolling the virtues of working with republicans, of bipartisanship. i wonder, senator, do you see how weird that looks to a lot of americans, the dissghekt is your party in denial about what the gop has become? >> yeah. look, think there's -- that completely inconsistent. let me be clear about this. clearly trump is gone. he's no longer in the white house but trumpism is still alive and well, whether you see it in the hallways of congress, in the house and senate chambers or in events like you just pointed now the riverside this weekend. it is taking its toll, its impa...

Confrontation. we saw it all over social media. you have these america first far right gop members of congress riling up people, provoking scenes like that far from their own homes and then you have senate democrats often extolling the virtues of working with republicans, of bipartisanship. i wonder, senator, do you see how weird that looks to a lot of americans, the disconnect? is your party in denial about what the gop has become? >> yeah. look, i think there's -- let me be clear about this. clearly trump is gone. he's no longer in the white house but trumpism is still alive and well, whethe...