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Awhile. but let's just focus on the point that he comes into the debate as the national front runner leading in the polls. he's leading in new hampshire. everybody keeps saying he's going to be hurt eventually by this. i'm not so sure. >> it's not clear he's going to be, but at some point we have to ask is he going to pivot and start talking about the economy and other things. that's what the frustration going on inside his camp with his advisers. they wanted him to use the debate as an opportunity to grow a little bit and move into the next phase. it didn't happen in the debate. it hasn't hap...

Hillary clinton is going to hit him hard on that if she's the democratic candidate. i think that's something to look forward to as well. but donald trump's comments certainly don't play well with that. >> phil, any other candidate in any other presidential race would have had, you know, a lot more criticism and a lot more problems continuing his or her campaign sahad he said the firs controversial comment trump said, yet he can say pretty much anything he wants, and it seems as though he doesn't have to pivot. he continues, and he actually grows. >> you know what? he is pivoting. he's vowing o...

Talking about this. >> he was just asked on "today." there are no detailed policy papers. instead of saying they are coming, he said 24 million people watched that debate. i'm a ratings king. he likes to talk about himself. how does he pivot? what does he need to do? >> first of all, he has to stop doubling down on the remarks he made about megyn kelly that we're all talking about now. he keeps getting into explaining mode. roll out some serious policies. go to an early primary state and give reporters something else to talk about. something else to e see rather than donald trump has not manag...

And different line, if he'll start releasing policy papers. there's some discussion of that. but i also think we're going to have to wait and see for the next round of polling. we have an initial nbc survey monkey poll that shows trump still out front by a good margin over ted cruz coming in second. but we still haven't seen the in-depth surveys that will capture what happened coming out of the debate, coming out of the comments and whether in particular women might react negatively to them. right. that survey monkey post was done after the debate. interesting thing about roger from donald tru...

Independent. there's a pretty stark contrast if you're looking closely between donald trump and the rest of the field. >> he takes full credit, by the way, for bringing in the additional millions of viewers. >> okay. >> go ahead, john. >> it's a mirror to our culture. even in a presidential campaign, celebrity has a way of donnell dominating real substance. it's a larger issue for us to deal with. >> and something he's been criticized for he's a lot of fire all talk but there's not a lot behind. not a lot of substance. he's been criticized for not providing the in-depth positions. now we're le...