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You weren't in any meetings with the candidate. you were in public rallies where thousands of people were. i don't think those people could say that they had been in a meeting with donald trump. most people in the campaign are denying kind of knowing you. i'm just trying to get -- you won't say who brought you into the campaign. you won't say what the topic of policy papers, which you have said you actually sent are. so it's not clear to me exactly how real you were a part of this campaign other than how you portrayed yourself when you were in moscow. >> i think as i have explained to a number...

Evening, he was talking about this was not a campaign, this is a movement. i was very proud to be part of a movement. and really people look at -- >> i'm trying to understand exactly what part of the movement you were. you weren't in any meetings with the candidate. you were in public rallies where thousands of people were. i don't think those people could say that they had been in a meeting with donald trump. most people in the campaign are denying kind of knowing you. i'm just trying to get -- you won't say who brought you into the campaign. you won't say what the topic of policy papers, whi...

American strike. and i'm not opposed to that necessarily, but we don't have a policy. and without a policy, striking doesn't make a de deal of sense. >> michael crowley, obviously we don't have a whole lot of agreement on this topic. >> no. not at all. and i think, you know, you just have to think that trump at this point is sort of improvising it. some of it may be if you want to give him a little benefit of the doubt, he is learning, he probably wasn't too tuned into the details of this stuff. now he is getting high level briefings, he is appreciating the complexity of the problem. and he is...

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Judiciary. it is very specific. >> the thing that is shocking about all of that, we have repeated documents and policy papers and articles on cnn.com that show that we don't have records of terrorist attacks coming from refugees in the first place. his argument that this judge could be responsible for something that we have not seen happen is just odd. >> he likes to use the boston bombers as an example. they were radicalized here, but granted asylum. shannon, let me go to you. you think this is recoiling. the republicans yesterday, some of them upset about the moral equivalency of the united ...