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>> what would you say to people who cause all of this vandalism? >> i don't know got to find out to be a better person. unbelievable joining me to discuss thanks for joining the program. tony so they cool to all of these cities they let the anarchist infiltrate their movement they burn down buildings. they throw stuff at cops. and they get paid. i mean, we must be a great life. it's good work if you can get it now argument they make there are people who did absolutely nothing wrong and they were detained inappropriately i think and david would agree as well if you're detaining somebody who has...

Democrats have a tendency to get into the numbers and into the policy papers. you're not going to win this election with a policy pen. a lot of this is about perception in politics. that's the story democrats can tell. they can take dret for what they've accomplished but they cannot seem out of touch and acknowledging what people are going through every day and what they think is important in their lives. otherwise it's going to be a blood bath in november for democrats. >> can i say one other point to what -- i just -- at the end of the day, we just need to talk to people how they talk. you k...

Inspired. instead they need could jump on board with something else, maybe common enemy. >> during the november off year elections i said democrats cannot win next year, bringing a policy pen to a political warfare fight. that's great. they do need to pass something, which is what they did with infrastructure, which should have happened two months prior so they had something strong and didn't use their political capital all those months during the november election trying to get something passed instead of trying to get control. now for the mid terms, you don't think republicans are going to m...