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President. bill: really, traditionally that comes mid to late august. >> the reason it does is you always try to create a buzz in convention. the conventions are so late this time you're not going to create a buzz. this is a very close race, anything you can to get the momentum moving toward, the policy set, you're way ahead of the game. bill:ed thanks. we'll talk to you next week. don't no anywhere. i won't. martha: in the meantime first lady michelle obama is hitting the campaign trail sharing her life story and making her pitch to middle class voters, what this role means for the president ...

If you ask yourself isn't that the play book that got us into this mess, that 6% actually doesn't sound like something you would predict based on the track record that we saw at the policy set during the bush years. >> that's right this is a statistical falsehood based on his budget, he is never going to get it to that position is he? >> i agree with everything that jared said what is also interesting to me is he did change his numbers. he did use to claim that he got unemployment down to 4%. there is a different center of gravity. and one good thing is there is a greater premium on telling th...

If you ask yourself isn't that the play book that got us into this mess, that 6% actually doesn't sound like something you would predict based on the track record that we saw at the policy set during the bush years. >> that's right this is a statistical falsehood based on his budget, he is never going to get it to that position is he? >> i agree with everything that jared said what is also interesting to me is he did change his numbers. he did use to claim that he got unemployment down to 4%. there is a different center of gravity. and one good thing is there is a greater premium on telling th...

Way. i played 4% a little while aago, he's now gone up to 6%. but the was a of management budget and congressional budget office both put us just over 6%. that's where the trend is headed anyway, right? >> if the economy were to pick up speed, absolutely. i think what you have to be concerned about there, is to map governor romney's policy agenda on to this unemployment number he has been throwing around. i mean if you just look at the supply side trickle down, regulatory stuff, that are in his policy documents, he doesn't side this stuff. it's exactly the policy set that got us into the mess ...

Marine corp comes from in saying it is one thing to have an opinion but you don't get to express it. >> i disagree with that. that's not what the constitution said and that's not the contract we signed. >> there are a couple of areas that you don't. violence or muttiny or treason. but me talking about policy set forth by our government is not hindering how we are defending our nation. >> they say it was a violation of marine code. >> we do argue that point and the comment was the basis. what it came back to armed fores and tea party . the marine knew about me. as long as you put the disclaimer...