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Riots the streets here, too. and i'm very much concerned between the wide gulf and the people who are being served. it's easy to be complacekplcompt service when you don't have to do it. >> the draft question is one policy solution to this divide. in fact, charli rangle, at one point, was proposing. i think it entered legislation. >> he was looking for a way to get out of -- not him getting out, he was looking for a way to get people to confront the notion that he's going off to war. and he didn't want to go off to war and that was his way of doing it. >> i mean, my instincts on that is that a...

Checkbook and credit card. let's bring in msnbc political analyst karen finny a former democratic committee speaks person and michael. karen, let's start with you. we're hearing about plan c. what do you think a gop surrender or is this a clever tactic? >> it is a clever political tactic but it is not a good policy solution. i find it ironic considering last week when there was raise this conversation about whether or not the president could use executive powers around the 14th amendment you had republicans saying they would impeach him. and now mcconnell's trying to say let's basically run ho...