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Promise but then you come to joe's point which is the most bizarre way i've ever seen in watching these kinds of policy things come down for a long time to announce this massive, massive shift in our policy and by the way, it's probably in violation of wto rules, an obscure part of the trade law that's only ever been used in iranian oil imports and you've got this huge impact with tillerson and mattis and other folks have well articulated that this is going to deeply affect our ability to lead the world into a better place. >> joe, for people who are looking for some hope that maybe the tariff...

He's the leader of the party. >> but i think my job isn't to defend andy, but what president trump says and a lot of what he does doesn't represent the entire republican party. and there are plenty of republicans, like andy card, who are deeply, deeply troubled by the president's behavior and statements, and as he said, there is odd policy things he likes, but so that it isn't fair to tarnish the entire party by some of these things that president trump says. >> you know, politics ain't fair. politics is war sometimes, and the fact is, what is the public going to see? >> right. >> i take your ...

His role with the best of intentions but has now become a prop in the trump show is this the reason you said everything the president touches dies, and you listed all these people. >> sure. well, we are looking a documentary about this, and the list gets longer and longer. everyone around donald trump ends up in a position where they're compromised by behavior or their behavior changes to match the things donald trump does. and it's also about policy things. this is a guy -- the big trophy wall of legislative accomplishments bear right now, because every legislative priority he's put his hands...

And it's also about policy things. look, this is a guy -- the big old trophy wall of legislative accomplishments at the white house is bare right now because every legislative priority he's put his hands on has fallen apart. he tried initially with trumpcare it fell apart. the tax reform plan is falling apart. donald trump doesn't have things he can really go out and say -- gorsuch is a great single accomplishment, but that was mitch mcconnell's pick and the federal society's pick. but everything else he does falls apart. this is a guy with very far accomplishments. and executive orders are ve...

Would do, it gives you a sense there is some room for them to work on this. also this is not a rally. it will not have a rally feel. we're at the farm bureau building on the grounds of the indiana state fair, and this is invitation only. it's local office holders, different community groups, businesses that are represented here, the chamber, that kind of an invite list. so this should be a group that understands tax policy in a way that might be personal to them, making the president's speech perhaps resonate a bit better than in a more general crowd, and of course it's friendly. friendly indi...