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How they want to drive their base, whether they want to drive a base by hope of what you can be as a country or the fear of what your country will become. immigration has become one of those issues that is global challenge and refugees are now to the tune of 60 million people and they are in the developing part of the world in europe has kept its borders high of the united states is now doing the same. this challenge of 60 million people with no place to go is not going to go away any time soon and is going to require some really serious policy thinking, developing some new systems of how to w...

After presidential change overs about how retractable these problems are. you hear presidents say they will be tougher on north korea effectively lean on undnorth ko and you get in office and find out there's other players in the world and the other side gets a vote. our options are very limited in north korea and it's not clear we have the tools in our tool kit to entirely dissuade them from pursuing their nuclear program. i think president trump has shown that kind of a mixed instinct in office at times bent more towards conventional policy thinking at other times challenges it. my guess is ...

Trump's tweets about the civil war or, you know, reading his musings or listening to his interviews where he talks about himself and what he things about his electoral college win this week. part of what is important and needs to be divined about this administration cannot be divined from thinking about his personality or watching him in action. a lot of what's going on is about the government as an entity, as not just one person. it's about the fact this is somewhere below the "b" team that the trump administration is bringing to washington and everybody says personnel is policy. that is true...

War or, you know, reading his musings or listening to his interviews where he talks about himself and what he things about his electoral college win this week. a lot of what's going on is about the government as an entity, as not just one person. it's about the fact this is somewhere below the "b" team that the strufrpgs bringing to washington and everybody says personnel is policy. that is true. you can see the policy thinking behind some of these appointments. but personnel is also basic competence, and that's where we're heading into trouble. more ahead tonight. stay with us. ♪ fun in art...

Engaged in the world's hot spots and to be aggressive about it. so it's different from the campaign trump in some respects. i think it is much more conventional as i suggested. more of a mainstream foreign policy than some people expected so far. >> the burdens of the office weigh on each president differently. but when he came out after the gas attack and talked about the babies, he sounded like a grandfather who dotes on his grandchildren. i wonder, could it be? that simple or are there true re-alignments in policy thinking? >> i think it's both. you talk to presidents over time, you feel th...