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How those policy tools will be interconnected and implemented by whom, where, and how i think those kind of details remain to be seen. >> reporter: is it a mistake to talk about military action, when you don't have your policy in place? >> well as ambassador lippert mentioned, the nuclear concern right now emanating from north korea merits the availability of all options, and so the iteration that the military option that preemption is an option that's on the table is a very important message, but i think when you're looking at this unfolding situation, i just want to quickly look at one inter...

Negotiation, a discussion is possible for the first time in years. he is the negotiator in chief in theory. shouldn't get personally involved. but, you know, most of our policy tools here are weak. and when we had success in restraining the program, it has been through diplomacy. so i hope he uses this opportunity to explore that as a possibility, a possibility we have not really used very often in recent years this is something he gets for free for being the new president. >> jim walsh, m.i.t. security studies, i like your style, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, ari. have a good night....

Complicated reality. there aren't a lot of powerful policy tools you can force the north koreans to stap testing. i am encouraged this went differently than one might have expected. the north koreans did not rush out and say we're going to test an icbm. they pulled back the reins and folks in the white house sort of responded in a more measured way with a little less bluster and less tendency to acting rashly. both sides are applying it a little as she goes to test each other out. >> in your view it was wise that president trump will very little to say? >> i think so. when you don't have great...

Thing to do. do you agree with that? >> yeah. i think before the trump administration decides what to do, they should have a very low profiled response. there's a lot -- and it's very difficult. we've had failure over the course of decades in the united states. we've not been able to stop their missile programs. we've not been able to stop their nuke programs. we need to be a little bit humble and think through this. obviously we're going to need new approaches. that's going to take time. and we've got to work very closely with our allies, which means we need to get japan and south korea on bo...

>> well, i think a lot remains to be seen here. frankly, he does have several policy tools that he can implement to help manufacturing come back in america as well as job creation. one is repatriation of taxes, repatriation of profits because they can't bring them into america. trump wants to try to change that. that will create bottom line differences for corporations to be able to hire. other is immigration. to the degree that the labor market tightens up, it will naturally result in americans getting paid more for their work. it will create that for all walks of life. he does have some tool...