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Mccain gives a speech. and he says be careful when i counter punch. >> be careful of what? he is going to call him a name? give him a nickname? it's ridiculous. >> the senator's critique of the president's foreign policy is a policy critique. he may be right. he may be wrong. the president is not about ideas. that's mr. trump's problem here. he was for single pair health care. he was for the war in iraq. no he is against it. politics is not about policy or ideas for him. it is for you and i think you project that on to him. but it's not how he is. it's all about his own narcissism. so these th...

>> you did public service and you didn't go make tons of money afterwards. harry truman who won world war ii, afterwards there is a famous story him being invited to speak and he shamefully writes and says can you pay the train ticket for me and my wife. now you do public service and people are making millions of dollars, that's not what there is supposed to be. steve: there's a ban on that? >> a ban on that. steve: we were talking to someone about lobbying. very much in line with that, the members themselves, because they don't spend the time on it. the policy work is contracting to start and...

>> you did public service and you didn't go make tons of money afterwards. harry truman who won world war ii, afterwards there is a famous story him being invited to speak and he shamefully writes and says can you pay the train ticket for me and my wife. now you do public service and people are making millions of dollars, that's not what there is supposed to be. steve: there's a ban on that? >> a ban on that. steve: we were talking to someone about lobbying. very much in line with that, the members themselves, because they don't spend the time on it. the policy work is contracting to start and...

Which is that the guy has got a lot on his plate. if he is the principal speech writer, that, itself s more than a full-time job. if he is doing sort of policy work and developing and shaping a lot of the policies, we saw what happens when he and people around him act too quickly, which is what happened when he tried the immigration ban and caused chaos at the airports and put themselves in a terrible position vis-a-vis the courts. it's fine to have the input. he did a confident job, i think, at advancing the trump agenda at the press conference where he appeared. on the other hand, to do that...

>> in one two words, if you are in the white house right now, how worried are you? >> i mean, if you're not involved in any of this, you shouldn't be worried but you're probably going to be dealing with this a lot of distracting you from your policy work. many people are going to need to lawyer up. if you were part of this, if you were in touch with this republican operative, if you're general flynn and this was a cooperative arrangement, you probably have a lot o worry about but i think general flynn already knows that, given he knows he's the subject of an investigation already. >> all right...