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Tweets helpful to you when you desperately need congress to tighten up the loopholes? >> you know, the folks we heard from from a matter of policy have not even supported the supplemental that allowed us to reduce crowding with respect to children. you heard complaints of children. those complaints were not true. we know we can solve this problem because other members of congress of both parties last month did that. the supplemental appropriation, the budget bill short term, in june, took us from about 2500 kids in detention, not built for kids, down to 300 some odd with only a small number of...

For asylum are ultimately granted asylum because their cases are considered to be sufficiently persuasive. they say there are just too many people who aren't eligible to seek asylum, who are doing it, and they hope this will reduce that poll factor for migration into the u.s. >> what is your reaction to this? asylum seekers may have spiked in the number seeking asylum but we know violence for example in the northern triangle has as well. >> yes, so what -- this is all an approach that started from the earliest days of the administration to restrict even legal immigration. we're not even talkin...

Attorney general and the secretary of homeland security say they believe this will reduce what they call a major poll factor that drives immigration to the u.s. they say it is caused by asylum seekers failing to seek urgent protection in the first available country. there is an exception. somebody who can show they were a victim of human trafficking. but they say they hope this rule will reduce what they call forum shomg by economic migrants. >> what does that mean, forum shopping? >> somebody trying to seek the best -- not seeking asylum in the first available place but seeking asylum in some...

Significant poll factor for immigrants coming into the country. rnia congressman, now by republican jeff denim. you were listening to kirstjen nielsen there. did you sense the administration digging its heels in on this family separation policy? >> digging its heels in cenly pushing congress to get its job done. i mean, i continue to encourage members of both parties, go to the border, go to the detention centers. this is nothing new for me. i've been to a lot of them. it is an emotional issue. but neither party should want to separate kids from their parents, and we actually have the ability ...

Address this problem, the same people every time said it's going to be a magnet. people are going to flood the borders trying to take advantage of it. so i'm curious, if that constantly is a problem every time this issue comes up, then how can you entertain any kind of comprehensive immigration bill? >> i understand the question. what i would say is if we put together a package and pass it, the conversation is over. vote for this trench. there are those that will receive some sort of permanent status. that's what the president has been clear on. >> the president favored two bipartisan bills. w...