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President of the united states or the u.s. government more broadly should say to mr. putin? what should we be doing both in retaliation against russian interference and what ideally do you think we should basically threaten mr. putin with in order to deter future interference in our poll sicks? -- ol poc -- our politics? >> there should be conversations with the russians. i think diplomacy is important and to have those conversations at a varpt of different levels. i think our best tool at the moment continues to be sanctions, and i think we need to make clear not only are the ones that are on...

States. he is trying to get the best deal possible but a lot of criticism about him embracing the idea of saving zte after what they did. >> harris: all right. you opened up your reporters' noteback because you were in the room there with the president for the 35-minute period in the oval office. great to get your insight, your reporting, john roberts. thank you very much. >> john: thanks, harris. >> bring in tom rogan who covers foreign poll sicks and politics for "washington examiner" -- politics for "washington examiner." tom, this was so information that the president made news with now. "...

They need the money for campaigning and they happen to align with the views of the donors. >> you know, in some cases i think that's true. but, that was the beauty of donald trump. he didn't need any of it. no one doubted he was saying what he thought. no one thought he was being put up to do any of this stuff by people donating because he wasn't getting donors like that. >> people disagreed with that too. he used his own money but they ask where did the money come from. what influences do you have from other businesses. as long as there is money in poll sicks, big money in poll politics. some...

Others they are not the puppets. they need the money for campaigning and they happen to align with the views of the donors. >> you know, in some cases i think that's true. but, that was the beauty of donald trump. he didn't need any of it. no one doubted he was saying what he thought. no one thought he was being put up to do any of this stuff by people donating because he wasn't getting donors like that. >> people disagreed with that too. he used his own money but they ask where did the money come from. what influences do you have from other businesses. as long as there is money in poll sicks,...

Utah are always collaborating on interstate health care policy announcements. okay? i mean, this is? a land where obviously things are not normal. this is not normal. garrett is putting north the straight forth explanation of linking arms and not being the one person that conservatives can seize on is helpful. you can pubt a target on both of their be backs. tell us about the politics of the two rather conservative states. >> mike lee specifically has, for a long time, been one of the best voices against a lot of the hedging that trump does in terms of how he tries to laud supposedly conservat...