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And are they getting their respective bases out if that's the case. certainly those trend lines have to favor president obama. >> ken, i want to go back to the polling memo from romney campaign pollster neil newhouse, which i found really unusual and found it remarkable. it was a point by point rebuttal of the piece over the weekend. they talked about the fact that this is still a tight race. that the battleground has expanded for romney, which the opposite case was made over the weekend in politico. the romney/ryan campaign is targeted. the other thing that struck me here is you see pollsters...

Fighting, move in the new direction we have a long way to go and ned need to be sure the democrats continue to be a majority and that is why we will hold the majority come november 2nd. >> there is a democratic strategy memo public this weekend, stan greenberg and james carville write: voters are not moved by democratic messages that say, go forward, not back, mention president bush, compare then and now or even hint that the economy is showing signs of progress. after hearing this battle over republican and democratic messages, 8% shift their vote to support the republicans, only 5%, move to ...