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At other people and what they are doing to show she deserve to have a shot in the first couple of debates and then make sure when you draw the -- say it is 12 people, when you draw them randomly, again, i want people to have a fair shake and we'll do that drawing publicly. >> it will be like the nba lottery. you got -- you got this issue, it is interesting you said that, because there likely could be very wealthy individuals running who could self fund a huge amount of air time to push up their name recognition. it is interesting to me that you're thinking about ways to get around essentially ...

I.d. >> exact live, but we're looking at other people and what they are doing to show she deserve to have a shot in the first couple of debates and then make sure when you draw the -- say it is 12 people, when you draw them randomly, again, i want people to have a fair shake and we'll do that drawing publicly. >> it will be like the nba lottery. you got -- you got this issue, it is interesting you said that, because there likely could be very wealthy individuals running who could self fund a huge amount of air time to push up their name recognition. it is interesting to me that you're thinking...

Across the pwoefboard, it was n just democrats turning out in greater numbers but republicans as well. >> the president, does he deser deserve some credit for turning out the voters in many of the states he went, missouri, tennessee, he had big wins? >> i think the president deserves credit for turning out everybody, and he turned out republican and democratic turnout. >> is there a polling problem? are we seeing a polling problem with regard to how -- what the spreads look like? is there a hidden trump vote? i heard frank say there was two or 3% of supportive trump numbers out there not showi...

Have some trepidation about all of this data crunching. we love it. we're junkies. but we -- >> still got it wrong with gillum tuesday night. >> gillum is running his race. my sister, full disclosure, she is a documentium. she is on the ground. this gillum, he has a lot of momentum on the ground. he can't win. he is at the bottom of the polls. my sister maria is saying to me he's got a lot of people following him at these different things. more than when he shows up where other people have been who are above him in the polls. can't win. can't win. it's either going to be the mayor of north bea...

>> my sister is a documentarian and is covering gillum. he's got a lot of moment you want on the ground. he's at the bottom of the polls. can't win. it's not going to be him. it's either the mayor of north beach. money has it all locked up. i was wrong. gillum took it by a lot. they didn't. capture voters who were sensitive to polling. >> it's a polling problem. it's a problem with the existing technology of polling. and just how tribal we have become. people are not always willing to tell people who they are going to vote for. >> there's polling, which maybe