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S is prem mince nice sent in 1936 when the reader's digest predicted alf landon of kansas would carry the state. roosevelt went on to win one of his biggest electoral landslides in our history. i'm joined by larry sabato at the university of virginia, a great man. and democratic pollster. i want to thank you both for your great prose. whether it's the 1936 literary digest or the failure by gallup in 1948 when we saw the great truman upset of new york governor tom dewey. we do we find ourselves in the big three of disaster poll elections right now? >> the polling process just doesn't work very ...

Polling numbers and interests diverge, so do their desires as it relates to debates. there was a brief moment where everybody thought this time the republicans are going to unite and be good to each other and take care of one another as they go into this polling process. well, that was never going to happen. >> now they're banding together to try to get the networks to make sure you tell the audience, chris, how hot do they want it in the debate hall if >> 67 degrees. >> that needs to be in a contract. they want all the candidates to receive similarly substantive questions, no lightning rounds...

Polling numbers and interests diverge, so do their desires as it relates to debates. there was a brief moment where everybody thought this time the republicans are going to unite and be good to each other and take care of one another as they go into this polling process. well, that was never going to happen. >> now they're banding together to try to get the networks to make sure you tell the audience, chris, how hot do they want it in the debate hall if >> 67 degrees. >> that needs to be in a contract. they want all the candidates to receive similarly substantive questions, no lightning rounds...

Were to guess i would suggest it happened this way, the republican national committee wants that field winnowed. they know it's too big and the longer it goes on with 15 or 16 or 17 candidates, the more negative attacks you'll have candidate against candidates. why did they want to reduce the number of debates? they believe mitt romney was weakened by the debate process in 2012 when many of those candidates survived for a long time and attacked romney pretty intensely for months and months. they wanted to prevent that this time. they wanted to winnow the field but they didn't want to do it bec...

Negative attacks you'll have candidate against candidates. why did they want to reduce the number of debates? they believe mitt romney was weakened by the debate process in 2012 when many of those candidates survived for a long time and attacked romney pretty intensely for months and months. they wanted to prevent that this time. they wanted to winnow the field but they didn't want to do it because the committee would get the blame for excluding candidates, so instead they said to the networks, you come up with a process. it's okay. whatever you do we'll rubber stamp, it's all right. the netwo...