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It's knight nice to have you on the program tonight. thanks for having me. thank you for having me. >> am i wrong that kanye west is running? >> it's news to me. we're at 22 running, so 23? why not? >> how about what factors they're considering for this short-term, difficult problem they've got about who gets to be in the debates? >> the obviously one is polling for the top tier, those who at 5%, 2%, 13% in the republican vote, your jeb bushes, scott walker, rand pauls, even ben carsons sort of hit that threshold. people like them, people know where they are. when you have ten counties below 5...

Polling is somehow biased or wrong or evil. i feel like you are waging a one-man war against pneumonia rossty in explaining how polling works. how has the week been? >> it's been a trip where you become a subject of conversation yourself and there's this celebrity level attached to it that's new for me e. but there are other websites that do the same thing that we do. they all show basically the same thing. there's no way to slice and dice the data in ohio or iowa or wisconsin right now and say that romney is winning there. in fact, the polls would have to mess up by quite a bit for that to oc...

If the polling model that you built at "the new york times" and the way you explain the polling is somehow biassed or wrong or evil. i feel like you are waging a one-man war against e pneumonia rossty in explaining how polling works. how has the week been? >> it's been a trip where you become a subject of conversation yourself and there's this celebrity level attached to it that's new for me e. but there are other websites that do the same thing that we do. they all show basically the same thing. there's no way to slice and dice the data in ohio or iowa or wisconsin right now and say that romn...

If the polling model that you built at "the new york times" and the way you explain the polling is somehow biased or wrong or evil. i feel like you are waging a one-man war against pneumonia rossty in explaining how polling works. how has the week been? >> it's been a trip where you become a subject of conversation yourself and there's this celebrity level attached to it that's new for me e. but there are other websites that do the same thing that we do. they all show basically the same thing. there's no way to slice and dice the data in ohio or iowa or wisconsin right now and say that romney ...