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Weren't safe. we had medicines that turned into prescriptions before well tested. we had a consumer market right down to meat and drugs were being given to the public. we were told, let the industries that produce them police them. that is like asking the fox to police the hen house. i made animal fox, not this fox. >> john: in this case it might be appropriate. >> in any case, you can't ask the people who are in the business of making things for profit to often police their goods. >> john: yes, you can i would argue. let's talk about one at a time. you said nuclear. i'm with you that on pollu...

Rotting meat. we had nuclear plants that weren't safe. we had medicines that turned into prescriptions before well tested. we had a consumer market right down to meat and drugs were being given to the public. we were told, let the industries that produce them police them. that is like asking the fox to police the hen house. i made animal fox, not this fox. >> john: in this case it might be appropriate. >> in any case, you can't ask the people who are in the business of making things for profit to often police their goods. >> john: yes, you can i would argue. let's talk about one at a time. you...

234 not going too well, though. it does seem quite brazen doesn't it? we're telling you who we're giving the money to and we don't think you can effect i havely fight back. >> they're creating a new vehicle, yet another vehicle to contribute money directly to congress, to buy a congress that you point out is likely to do its bidding and fight pollution controls and environmental regulations. >> so let's talk about that for a second. >> we talk in the context of koch 12industries, but it appli to the entire oil and gas industry. they want the subsidies but they want to make sure the air is poll...

Jeunesse with his handy calculator. >> we've been talking taxes all week but the cost of government begins with spending and many in congress believe there's no cost we must pay for than saving the planet, the carbon tax that stops you from using oil, coal, natural gas, the house passed this clean american security act in june, it provides more money for renewable power, mandates on pollution controls and a new tax to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. according to the cbo, congressional budget office, the bill would increase federal spending by $820 billion. that money would help people buy cle...

Up, and that's due to two factors. you know, gas prices are always connected in some way to the economy and right now, we have better than expected unemployment rates. the unemployment rate drops. what does that translate to? more commuter driving and overall, more demand for energy. so you're going to see that increase in oil prices, which translate in turn to increase in gas prices. but the second factor, of course, is we're entering into the spring driving season. so traditionally, that's an increase, again, in the commuter driving during the spring season going into the summer, but also, r...