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According to a epa official, widely expected to be one of the most significant regulatory roll back efforts. mr. pruitt expected to publish a major which i think, the agency legal propose to to gut barack obama's rule to -- that proposal is a court battle with california and raises the prospect that the american car market can be split in two with different groups of states enforcing different pollution rules. the other two branches of government, legislative and courts are free to weigh in. like the courts, the legislature supposed to act in the best interest of the american people, rich and ...

Involved in legal fights against the agency on their pollution rules, their other environmental rules. so, i think we can expect to see this sort of thing continue. >> another thing that is becoming a theme here, hallie, this trump administration caught in battles on some of the president's biggest promises. we saw that with his travel ban and now seeing it with this. he said he will roll back the obama era regulations when it comes to the environment and also expects to take years for him to pull out of the clean power plan that president obama had also put into place. that is something that ...

>> actually, we agree with that. i'm not sure a person at the state department is going to make that vast a difference on this particular issue or issue similar. >> all right. but we detected a note of agreement in there. leave it at that. great to see you both. thanks for coming. the obama administration is rolling out new pollution rules for power plants. saving the planet or another round in the role of coal? and straight out of "star trek," tell poration has reality. they've only been able to do it with tiny data. and in most cases a single atom, but it's a start. we'll be back. you told...

Federal employees? no expanded oil drilling, please can we have expanded oil drilling? democrats said no. neutrality, nope. >> the pollution rules for new coal-fired power plants. we demand you repeal those. democrats said no. democrats, i said no. paul ryan piped up. he popped up and said, how about my tax code changes from when i ran for vice president? can i have those tax code changes now? democrats said no. republicans demanded that the administration get rid of cole ash regulations. democrats said no. then they demanded to change the tax on medical devices, the tax on medical devices. no...

A bond. a research monday tea party group was upset they paid $10,000 for three rallies and the occupy wall street types came in and they were not charged anything. a double standard. >> what about, one thing that key up in the debate a lot last night and i want your thoughs, what is the limit for what the government can allow? in other words, how were and to what extent should the government be involved in thing like stimulus that doesn't stimulate, bailouts that doesn't bailout. ron paul said something interesting, the government has no obligation, no duty, no role, no business, any of this....