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Going to be able, if he decides to run, to express himself and his point of view. clearly working with the president sometimes and other times expressing his opposition. >> well, we've seen sort of both of those, mcdakay, romney and t president trading insults back in 2016. i want to remind people of that. >> the discussions i've had with him have been enlightening and interesting and engaging. i've enjoyed them very, very much. he did something i tried to could and was unsuccessful in accomplishing, he won the general election. and he continues with a message of inclusion and bringing people ...

Running our country, folks. we have a bunch of losers. they're losers. they're babies. >> what would you say to george will? >> well, george is a major loser. >> when i watch a george will or a charles krauthammer, i watched them for aryears. they're losers. >> look at these people. what a bunch of losers. you are a loser. >> rosie is a loser. >> bill crystal, he's got some magazine. i don't know what it is. what a loser! >> like poor mitt romney. poor mitt. i understand losers. i understand losers. you can make a lot of money with losers. >> i think the losers are nancy pelosi and chuck schum...

Issues like employment, taxes and even abortion in the last week or so there has been a lot of discussion about some of these things, do you help your husband and advise and discuss, i imagine that you you would discuss the controversial of it issues, i think about abortion specifically help him think about ways to bridge the conversation or navigate even on issues on this. the gop even within the party has nuances or differences that. >> poor mitt is getting advice from everybody and used to even getting it with me. really with policy i stay clear. the way i try to help him is maybe by approa...

To share your feelings. they changed me in a good way. >> romney discuss difficult policy issues and i asked if she advised him when it came to breaches differences on issues like unemployment, taxes and abortion. >> well, you know, i can't help myself. poor mitt. he is getting advice from everybody and used to getting it from me. but really with policy, i stay clear. the way i try to help him is maybe by approaching it or saying it in a different way or something like that. he is very clear on the issues. i was interviewed and i said i don't advise him in policy. he was laughing sitting next ...

That i do. it is just being around each other. i think just being around each other gives us a sense of security and serenity and peace and all those good things that just happen just by being together. >> i think she has an intuitive sense in looking at people and considering individuals as to which people are telling us the straight story, which people are a bit phoney. she has a sense of how other people might feel about something. >> chris: let's talk about your role in the campaign and what your role would be in the white house. do you give your husband advice? >> not on policy. >> do you...