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Changed. they attacked with a -- it was a pop can. of course around about five, ten years ago, of course the threat of cell phone bombs became prevalent. so if someone's acting dramatic, the flight attendants move people away from the source of the threat. if they can identify an item that is the threat, they're supposed to put items on top of it in case something explodes. if somebody's acting erratically, they are permitted to use zip ties or any other manner they have to restrain the person and after 9/11, passengers readily jumped in and help just as they did with the shoe bomber to take t...

Help and save yours and other lives and save the plane. >> we're awaiting to learn some more details about all of this. but of course this comes after a series of events on airplanes where passengers exhibited erratic behavior in recent months. what do you think is going on on that front? >> well, you know, and it's not just on-air craft. i mean there is so much anger, you know, across the country, around the world. but on-air craft it's especially dangerous because after september 11, 2001 the threat vectors changed. since then we've had as i already mentioned the under wear bomber and the sh...

>> what exactly do you believe? where is the ronnesty here? >> there is radio dispatch tapes of the 22 move minute pursuit. there are excited utter rance statements of officers seeing the occupants of the vehicle allegedly with their arms extended as if they had a weapon pointing it at police? there are radio broadcasts. >> i'm sorry, just to be clear, there were also radio dispatchs to say wait, they're not armed. not armed. >> no there was one officer that road up and saw the passenger had a pop can in her hand. again if that officer's statement in open court on the record he testified that ...