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Illness which is keeping them away from insurance unless they are protected or already have insurance. so all of those different types of things fall into this thing. the plan we've got is to bring premiums down. now the plan -- and nobody is claiming it's perfect but this one does reduce premiums by about 30% by the year 20. so we've got some room to work with on this one. and when we talk to folks back there in south dakota they have -- they're concerned about cancer they may have a child with a serious illness we tell them number one we want insurance in the future that will have guaranteed...

In the mortal words of grateful dead that you've been set up like a bowling pin. >> yeah, joe. what probably happened is the president was at one of his golf clubs this past weekend and maybe his caddie complained about the health care bill. that's the way this thing works. the other way this works and kasie put her finger on it, mitch mcconnell's top priority is making sure he maintains control of the senate. his top priority is not helping to come up with a health bill that is best for everyone, for more people than not in this country. health care is hard. it was hard for bill clinton and h...

College or when students are looking at apprenticeship programs in the building trades or four-year institutions, when they leave they have the skills necessary to enter the workforc workforce. >> reporter: and the president's budget, congress was talking about some new welfare reform. could this sort of integrate into that at all? >> certainly the dash one of the important aspects of this is the portability of credentials. when someone earns a skill, when someone learns a skill it is important to signal to other employers that this person knows a certain set of skills. the emphasis is on high...

Between industry and ecation institution. so when the students go to a community college or are looking at apprenticeship programs in the building trades or four-year institutions, when they leave, they have the skills necessary to enter the workforce. >> in -- congress is talking about new welfare reform for able bodied people. could this integrate into that at all? >> certainly one of the important aspects of this is the portability of credentials. when someone learns a skill, it's important to signal to other employers that this person knows a certain set of skills. so i should say the emph...

>> do they not see the costs going up? >> well, this is the first, first of all, most of these people have their subsidy, 75% or higher percentage of people that signed up in the exchanges have the subsidy so this is the first time in their life, you don't understand that, those of us who are lucky to have health insurance, it's the first time in their life they have ever had health insurance for their families, suddenly they see it flying away. >> hugh what are your listeners? i take it you don't have bill's listeners? >> i do, bill and i have been working toke for years, they listen to me to...