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Democrats get their lunch handed to them so that's over. but going forward there was one common theme i thought that emerged in that special election among democrats. it's been prevalent for a long time. and it is that when they talk about the health care stuff, they turn explanations into excuses. it sounds like an excuse for the health care. in terms of campaigning, does the white house have a plan that the president and on down, every democratic candidate on the ballot would explain the health care legislation to people in specific terms, that here's what you have, you have portability, you...

Physic am i listed in that policy? no, you're not. you're not listed on metro gold plus. let me see if i can get on that. i don't know if that network will include me. in the real life of the doctor's office, this is even more of a mess than people not being insured. they're not getting care. >> i agree with what you're saying. it is a mess. but back to doug's point earlier, the problem for the republicans is they haven't come to the table and offered anything positive. >> in fairness, individuals have, but as a party, they have not coalesced behind a single plan, that's true. i think that's a...

Talk about dismissively, some of them have died, and some of them have other appointments, so let's just delete them. they're not -- this is -- they're not thinking of veterans as customers, they're thinking of them as numbers through a process. customers need to be served one by one, each one of these has a story, they've served on the battlefield of this country and deserve to be taken care of. bureaucrats are covering their butts. >> what's the big deal? so you go to another hospital. the va doesn't call you back. go to another hospital. >> you cannot go to another hospital. you don't have ...

Down the rod 30 million will be uninsured. why not look at policies that help the 40 million and same time looking at things with portability and advaps in the number of doctors and nurses and health savings accounts to fix problems with insurance and providers for the ones that have it already. look at governors. we have 29 governors and find localized solutions. you may have to have some partnerships for people who need health care and preexisting. but you will not do it by focusing on the rest of the country. >> and the reality. health care is ultimately the responsibility of the individual...

Plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan. period. >> well, it turns out that over 6 million people and counting have lost their plan under obamacare. congresswoman blackburn, you have worked in this area. you're from a state that tried something at the state level like this. >> that's right. >> you experienced it. >> we have experienced it first-hand, and i think that's why tennessee did not want to do the medicaid expansion, and it's also why they have said, you need to do everything you can to delay it, to repeal it, and to replace it. and my across state line purchase of health in...