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Getting exhausted by the hostility, division and how people are running to their aisle -- to their corners here in the city. it's -- people outside of washington are really -- i call it chaos exhaustion. they are just exhausted by the chaos. they want it to stop. and current -- this porter thing is more of the chaos, more of something not going right. >> steve, what do you think, this is someone who really -- trey gowdy hasn't had a difficult time at all operating in the interest of his party. he really has been loyal at many times a stalwart in defending his party's interest and saying this. ...

Stuff. it becomes a field of confusing white to everyone. >> you think -- you think the porter thing will go away. maybe you're right. >> only because the next scandal will be here in three days. the next after that in four days a and incidental stuff in four days. multiple people in the white house including first and foremost john kelly knew about this stuff. this they stuff stared at the details of this if they didn't. and they decide to do didn't sound like much, didn't matter to them, or decided to ignore it because they just had other things they wanted to look at. i was thinking, last t...