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For how they face this post-election. but they still have ten days to go and they're going to try to just make minimize the impact of this. >> you mentioned trump and trump supporters. rick, is there any indication at this point there may be a responsibility an undereimation enit comes to donald trump supporters? >> of his turnout? >> the outcome. >> yeah, sure, there is. no pollster has found it yet. this thing is two outcomes. one is what beth had said earlier, except in addition to having something to talk about they have something to protect themselves from. remember, the republicans are n...

His reluctance to be seen as doing the russian's bidding. but, you know, that is another area where looking to post-election, where there could well be investigations and a lot of -- you know, a lot more to find, which is just what were the russians up to here, and were there associations with people in the trump camp? were they trying to aid and facilitate donald trump's election? we do know paul manafort, trump's former campaign manager, is being investigated by the fbi, grows out of some of the ledgers found in ukraine for payments. so i wouldn't be so sure that you wouldn't see a clinton j...

Eat, he tells everyone who to order. she says no. i don't want steak. i'll have the fish. she wanted to stand up to him. >> right. >> i think the trump men respect that. >> that's a piece of this conversation. the other piece. dan mcginn, this is why i wanted to talk to you, is on trump brand. we saw him at the ribbon cutting of his new hotel. you guys have been strategists for coca-cola. johnson and johnson. you know how to deals with brands in crisis. it's hard to tell what kind of impact this campaign could have positively or negatively on donald trump. if it has some difficulty, if he does...

Lindsey graham. trump saying i don't know how they live with themselves. raises the question, why is he going after these fellow republicans with only 14 days left to go? doesn't he have other things to point towards? >> we know donald trump likes to hold a grudge. what we've seen in the last few weeks is for him to really consistently go after and try to chase his tried and true supporters, fire up his base, even though it's not pulling new supporters in for him. this is throwing out red meat to those supporters, railing against the establishment, talking about the past grudges. i also think ...

It's now the party of anti-reason. it started with sarah palin in 2008 and it's continued. unless he gets that straightened out, it's not going to win national elections and it shouldn't win national elections. the question is post-trump, post-election, which republican party is going to prevail. >> you were talking about saying things in a primary that hurt you in the general. those two things don't work, and donald trump never really changed. we had some of the smartest republican strategists sitting in that very seat over the last couple months and asked that question of how do you get some...