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Prosecution and the potential cooperating witness to get to know each other. so you have to understand that at this point, this potential cooperator who is also a potential defendant has a lot to lose by being candid with the government. so he has the ability to come in and tell the prosecutors everything that he knows with the promise that it won't be used back against him unless he lies or takes the witness stand and says something contrary to what's in the proffer. this is an opportunity for the government to test drives the witness and see if the testimony will bring value to them to give ...

Is asked. what does it tell you where the white house is now? >> it's clear from the book "fast and fury." there is nobody except maybe -- >> "fire and fury." >> "fast and fury" too. there is nobody, nobody in that white house, except maybe his family members, that are going to take a bullet for donald trump. every one of these people is a potential witness including bannon. i mean, look at michael flynn. this was his top security guy. these two were peas in a pod. donald trump tried to stop the investigation by the fbi into him. now he's cooperating. that means almost anybody in that white ho...

Expectations of mueller and his team? >> then he won't get the deal. typically a cooperation agreement or flipping as it's called, doesn't happen until you have had a series of what are called proffer meetings, an agreement to sit down and see what the government has to say. the government is looking for two things. they want to know what information of value does this witness potentially have and is this witness credible. will he stand cross-examination interest be able to help you prove a case? a potential cooperator has to get thumbs up on both scores. that's the purpose of the proffer meet...