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Gives them immunity. that means they can't be prosecuted, so they can no longer refuse to testify. we don't know who the witnesses are yet, but i'm certain they have gone through the process, they're going to be critical witnesses for the government. >> we heard a rundown of all of the evidence. some of the 500 pieces of evidence. anything stand out to you there? >> this is going to be a document-intensive case. i think it's very clear that manafort at least had partial ownership of all of these accounts. and there's no question that money was being moved through these accounts and taxes were ...

Happening. and so, yes, it's -- he must have known about that. and yet nevertheless continued to say no, it's a hoax. >> i wander if for the indictments this really gave mcmaster cover to say out loud yes, because the rest of the intel community has been saying this for a long time that russia was meddling. >> would have been embarrassing otherwise, right? >> i would think. so far the president has yet to even punish russia for any kind of penalty for this kind of meddling, even show an interest in getting to the bottom, you know, of any kind of potential interference. the former national secu...

And i'm a little confused about it. i started to think that maybe the republicans on the committee actually wanted to obtain the testimony of those people so they could let the white house know what their testimony is. because they won't be able to discover that through the special prosecutor's office on any grand jury testimony. but then when you see the republicans today joining in this subpoena it seemed to be over the objections of the white house, i don't have a theory anymore. >> yeah, i think it's important to remember that on the house intelligence committee they're basically running t...

Over the objections of the white house, i don't have a theory anymore. >> yeah, i think it's important to remember that on the house intelligence committee they're basically running two different simultaneous investigations. one of them is being run by adam schiff and congressman conway of texas. and that's a bipartisan investigation where the members are really interested in getting to the pack facts on potential interference by a hostile foreign government in our nation's electoral system. and then simply from that, but at the same time, you have devin nunes, the chairman of the committee wh...

Trump might have made to shut down the investigation that we're just talking about here about russian interference in the election. obviously the big looming question over this testimony will be, will there be evidence that people can fairly interpret. that is the fair question that will be addressed by comey's testimo testimony. >> david gregory, no real indication the white house was going to block the testimony. when he gets up there, is there a chance democrats will be greatly disappointed by what comey said, it will be somewhat in deference to mueller, wanting to preserve some things out ...