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Moment. right now, you got ash carter who is out there saying the u.s. is at war. this is not new, the idea that the world is at war against isis. what do you see here as new? >> i think what's new here is the more tactical engagement of isis. as fabrice mentioned there's this notion of the on-scene commander. it seems that this guy was the on-scene commander and executing the tactical portion of this operation. it also seems that there is a command and control link to isis in syria. what that also means that we, as a collective intelligence community failed, whether it was the french or ameri...

Effective for that to be done by forces on the ground. ultimately, you don't just have to take that territory, you have to hold it. what we've learned in the last decade, the presence of foreign forces that can provoke uncertainty. and that's why forces on the ground taking this territory in syria is so important. but also a political resolution to the syrian conflict is important. and again, we have a road map and a time line now to get that done, through the talks that have been taking place over the course of the last several days. >> ben rhodes, we appreciate you joining from us the philip...

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Mosque said to me today, they have land, that is why they have influence. we need to occupy that land and deny them that land. because that's where they're planning the carnage that we see here. >> yeah. >> they've been dedicating resources for months for stopping this flow both to and from syria. u.s. counterterrorism officials have told me sadly the europeans are overwhelmed by numbers and lack of resources. but there are other things. i spoke to a security force a couple days ago ted that turkey has been ambiguous. they've been an ambiguous partner. >> it's a big problem. turkey is serving ...

We have every weapon. you are seeing the building has collapsed. >> the apartment in saint-denis that they shot up yesterday. >> and they try to detect the bodies. of course, we are learning a lot about what happened last days. >> and the point is, 1 in 6, or 1 in 7 isis recruits are women. and u.s. intelligence officials have been telling me for months, it's an expanding profile. you used to have this angry young man profile. 20 somethings from this disinfected communities. but it's expanding. you got women, people in their teens, that makes it more difficult to stop. >> one of the bigger iss...