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Very careful about what you're saying to them, and so, yes, there are a number of legal mine fields here for the congressman. >> this potential obstruction was taking place prior to any public knowledge of the investigation into gaetz. what do you make of that timeline? >> he's making it sound -- look, he has a name to clear and he's making it sound that new information is coming out in this investigation of him, it sounds from the reporting like this information was out there a year ago, investigations take a long time to build. these things aren't created in a vacuum and don't come out of no...

But he uses it and states it as fact. he ignores the full context and nobody of this is new for this president. he tee'd off on another target, adam schiff for what he called shameless lies, fantasy language. despite the fact that schiff said this at the same hearing. >> it reads like a classic organized crime shakedown. sure of its rambling characters and in not so many words, this is the essence of what the president communicates. >> look, while we're pointing out the fact hume mistake, there is always the president's insistence that you found nothing when it comes to the mueller report. in ...

Happened. it just happens to have the president saying everything he needed to say to clear himself from this using language that only the whistle-blower used, certainly not the latin that this president is used to saying. so i don't even know that it happened. but he use it is and states it as fact. he ignores the full context and nobody of this is new for this president. he tee'd off on another target, adam schiff for what he called shameless loo shameless lies, fantasy language, despite that schiff said this at the same hearing. >> it reads like a classic organized crime shakedown. sure of ...

It, say some. would that have been the case? would it have been harder for you? and let me just ask you, if there is an article of impeachment on obstruction of justice dealing with mueller, would you have voted no or yes? >> dana, relative to this whole thing, there is such a spirit of self-preservation in congress comprehensibly. we're trying to muddy the waters. that's actually at the root of the greatest problem in washington, justice and the constitution. it's clear from the mueller report, there are many cases of potential obstruction. i wish we had been in a position to obtain documents...

All sorts of poor judgment in between. mueller laid out a lot of counts of potential obstruction by the president alone and six of his guys admitted or were convicted of lying to the feds. the only hoax was potus and pals denying russian interference because they thought it made his win look illegitimate and it doesn't. his people lied. they broke laws. they tried to get close to the guys for dirt and the president went so far as to do this embarrassing turn on the world stage. >> i have president putin, he just said it not russia. i will say this. i don't see any reason why it would be. >> he...