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And said you need to extract some sort of a loyalty promise in exchange for the job security. >> let's switch gears because i want to ask you about a policy shift that has a lot of people scratching their heads. it looks like the president according to ben sasse yesterday has brought the issue of getting back into the tpp on the table. he said that in a meeting with several lawmakers including governors. what's behind the potential pivot for the president? why is he now doing this and what does it mean? >> a senior white house official told me late yesterday that ben sasse -- senator ben sasse...

>> some version of these two things. either hooee's going to go off prompter to some extent or. we're seeing him act every bit as donald trump the candidate did. we frequently talked about the planned pivot or the potential pivot where he was going o change his behavior. none of that has happened and that includes his tweets. his twitter behavior has been pretty familiar to what we have seen before. he's not interested in modulating or reigning in his own behavior and he clearly has something he wants to say. we may see some change once he gets into the white house and doesn't have access to h...

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Going to have to say we will not let the country get wrecked by this. i agree with the remarks at the beginning. we could get downgraded at any moment. we are courting real trouble, and if only we would pay -- if all it was we'd pay more interest, that's crazy. more interest means less of everything. we would prefer to pay for interest, kids go to college, it's crazy. >> after weeks of saying that he would not support a short-term extension of the debt ceiling, today president obama came out and said he would, he would support a short-term deal as long as there were plans in place to move forw...

More interest means less of everything. we would prefer to pay for interest, kids go to college, it's crazy. >> after weeks of saying that he would not support a short-term extension of the debt ceiling, today president obama came out and said he would, he would support a short-term deal as long as there were plans in place to move forward to a bigger bargain after the bridge. do you see that as a potential pivot here, as an important point towards moving forward? >> i think people in the white house are really legitimately scared. they are not paralyzed, just looking at the same stuff we are....