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>> i program ecuador. it's a magnet for -- it's a strange place south beach. i don't think we want to get into that tonight. i think it might have something to do with climate. you would think that the people that are outside more in the southern states would be burning off the calories while if you live in montana. >> it's hot. >> montana 18 feet of snow you have to cacoon. >> when it's hot outside you are lethargic. i'm lethargic all the time so it doesn't really matter. >> bill: arizona and california they are in the lean states. that's a place where -- >> -- i think it's definitely the pov...

So it doesn't really matter. >> bill: arizona and california they are in the lean states. that's a place where -- >> -- i think it's definitely the poverty issue has to do with obesity. >> go to whole foods or one of these healthy stores. the stuff in there is so expensive. turnf these organic turn -- turnips $8. >> supermarkets are the places you get the wide variety of healthy choices. >> bill: huddy is in for the economic angle. i think she is probably right. >> i am. >> bill: not the geographical north vs. south climate. you are in shape so you know that right? >> thank you, i appreciate t...

It's a magnet for -- it's a strange place south beach. i don't think we want to get into that tonight. i think it might have something to do with climate. you would think that the people that are outside more in the southern states would be burning off the calories while if you live in montana. >> it's hot. >> montana 18 feet of snow you have to cacoon. >> when it's hot outside you are lethargic. i'm lethargic all the time so it doesn't really matter. >> bill: arizona and california they are in the lean states. that's a place where -- >> -- i think it's definitely the poverty issue has to do w...

Politicians. it has become more of a poverty issue and less of a flashy political issue. >> that feels to me like part of what's happening is that poverty does not cause hiv infection but the interrelationship between poverty and new infection as well as once one is managing the disease and the questions of poverty that emerge. talk to me about that connection between poverty and hiv. >> absolutely. poverty can be a driver of hiv for all the reasons that we were talking about, where poverty can put people into situations that they might not want to be in, whether it is coer sieve relationships...

A tremendous opportunity for him to peel back that politics of resper respectability argument and carve out a new set of politics that allows for leftists to fight. i am talking about foreclosure issue and student debt on domestic stuff and creating increasing possibilities to deal with poverty and the like. >> the poverty issue has been one on which the president has had particular pullback. clearly, not only do we need better unemployment rates but living wages. is that a possibility from this preside president? >> before we get to the wages, we need to see what happens with the fiscal cliff...