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Purely consensual relationship. and imagine a work environment where everyone is fully aware that someone down on the totem pole is actually having a relationship with the boss. how do you move -- how are there promotions that are made without all of them being done under this shadow of, well, why was that person given that job? why has that person been fired? you cannot have a productive workplace. >> at least in some workplaces there are hr departments. there are power dynamics in hotels, bars, restaurants, factory floors where the power dynamic exists. no star power but there's influence an...

Not wrong doings when you take that and put it next to his statement where he apologizes, he does also effectively say i disagree with some of the ways that this has been described. that some of this was consensual. i think we all as a society have to decide what wrong doings means. it seems some people have an idea of it than others. where are we drawing the lines between sexual misconduct, sexual harassment, and -- >> and sexual assault. >> inappropriate behavior. >> isn't it also about self-awareness? because while charlie rose could say i thought it was consensual, for that 23-year-old gir...

Were shared? >> absolutely not. these interviews with these women, i want to reiterate, they took place over hours and hours of conversations that we had with them, over an extensive period of time. in some cases, they would go back and look through e-mails and perhaps they had complimented mr. rose about a certain show or said that they admired his work. looking back, they say that they felt like they sent those e-mails in a sense of a power dynamic. he was their boss. many of them are young. he was the only reference they had on their resume. i want to say that none of them said it was in an...

Is that this is just the beginning. and every day now, it feels like there are new accusations whether it's congress, i think there are a lot of members current and former who are nervous right now thinking back over things they've done. women are now feeling comfortable speaking out, whether it's the media, whether it's politics, we are reckoning in this country with how do we sift through this? how do we decide who should resign and who shouldn't? we are all going through this together as a culture and it's been a really tough few weeks. >> sandra: you wonder if this is the moment because it...

Here. he doesn't get a pass from anyone in this room. we are all deeply affected and rocked by this. i want to echo what nora said. i really applaud the women to speak up despite the friendship. he doesn't get a pass because i can't stop thinking about the english of these women. >> sandra: the rose controversy arose the same day as "the new york times" spent it start political reporter one fresh for an apparent pattern of hitting on and groping young female colleagues. so this is just breaking. carly rose now fired by cbs. i'll open that one up to you. >> pete: obviously powerful, he's been a...