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Touch medicare in any way, shape, or form. and because of that, when you talk to the senate majority leader and some of his top aides, they recognize, we're going to have to look for other alternatives here. but there's no question about it. this has been the speaker's grand ambition. tax reform, clearly one of his grand ambitions. but since the power points that we all watched with the slides and when he was budget chairman, this is something that he wants to do. if you want to get him on an extended riff during a press conference, start asking him about this stuff and nine minutes later, he'...

Do it. that's the way that folks in minnesota and wisconsin actually feel about it. we're sick of the republicans that lose. they're nice and do power points and tax reform, white papers. that's all crap if you can't get it passed. he's the guy that will get it across. he -- >> he -- >> i'm talking about the senate. >> yeah, he got it passed. good to him. it's a scaramucci win, fight, don't give up versus oh, man, we tried so hard. >> something to be said for what the heck is a skinny bill thing. nobody really wanted it to become law. they really didn't. they needed something better than that....

As being among any sort of priority whatsoever, never mind large-scale slaughters that are taking place. >> i think this is a very important moment for this administration. when you see these images coming out and you see this evidence of crimes against humanity, what they say today. >> it's very important, because look, president trump talks tough when he wants to talk tough, and this might appeal to some of the authoritarian regimes that are out there. but at the end of the day, he talks tough. is he going to take this opportunity to talk tough to players that can perhaps influence the regim...

So irritated you? >> well, there was a lot of misinformation in the power points that were presented. steve: like what? >> oh, it was everything from healthcare to donald trump's mental health issues. steve: okay. so you heard that. you felt it was propaganda and what did you say? >> i stood up and asked them to speak for themselves -- or to think for themselves. not to just take the word of the aclu. we're in a situation where we have a lot of organizations with established structure who are using that structure to promote propaganda. and someone needs to speak out against it. and that's up t...

Alarming and there is new information which one would think would need to be learned. >> keep in mind members of his staff did attend briefings yesterday and attend them every day like general mike flynn. they inform him based on certain things that he may need to know. going back to what i was saying, i sat in these briefings every single day when i was in iraq and places like that. oftentimes for three weeks you would have the exact same intel brief from the exact same power points. there's no need. there's new information, i'm sure general flynn will say mr. trump, you got to attend to this...