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Can apple continue to innovate? it's a problem the company faces. >> can't innovate my -- [ bleep ]. >> they are using steve jobs bravado to back up non-steve jobs-type innovation. this is an incredibly expensive computer, very powerful, is it innovative? yes, within a vacuum of geeks, power users, designers, ed terrors, the type of people that are going to spend a lot of money on a computer, not a mass product like the iphone, ipod, ipad. >> one more thing, people look for apple to come out with a television, but we can't say this was insignificant. the technology built in is going to be inte...

Relatively small, maybe influential but small group much people that are really big on power users on a couple social media platforms versus the people in boston, the people who called who did the gumshoeing, that helped to make it successful. >> it's still a net gain even if we have a sense of anxiety about that surveillance or even about our surveillance of the surveillance. maybe it's in part this notion with the new tk nolg come new social norms. bob, thank you so much for joining us today. i really appreciate it. >> we have much more coming up. you should also know that we have some of ro...

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