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That is the basic idea. >> if you take that and go back to the separation of church and state. it's to protect the inalienable right. they used the first amendment and used both terms. it limits the government. congress shall make no law establishing establishment of religion. no individuals are prohibited from anything. congress is told it can't set up a religion and it can't stop anybody practicing their religion. >> glenn: you can't have a state -- you say protecting the state from a religion, we don't want the state telling us thousand practice, worship of government. can anyone tell me, t...

You will not believe what we used to teach and how that's all been erased. we'll do in a second. i want to actually, david, share this, this is from -- >> 1832. public school textbook by noah webster. >> glenn: now he in this, this is school textbook. >> school textbook. >> called the school master to america, one of the three most significant american educators and he's personally responsible for constitutional language. article i, section 8. >> glenn: this says the position of the constitution of the united states will unfold to young persons the principles of republican government and it's ...

Stuff up. that's one document. >> one plus thousands of others but it is that one document, and a whole lot more. >> glenn: nicholas? >> this wasn't during your program, but the speech at cpac and it was the real history of the statue of liberty and it's not just the french giving us a gift. it was much more than that. >> glenn: you guys didn't think the french were being nice, did you? no. let me ask you this. i want to transition into are we a democracy or republic? republic. anybody want to tell me the difference between the two? do we have a mic? pass it to him. >> it's democracy ruled by ...

To control, even keep people as slaves one way or another, controlling them. manipulating them. all of the bad traits in humans. we don't progress out of those. >> see what happens is technology progresses but human nature doesn't. we have the same characteristics and desires and abuses. the same virtue and honor that is there. technology that changes. >> glenn: really, the idea was smaller government because the government, if the government is -- then just a handful of people, they take it and then they control everybody. so everybody is under control with these, where a small government you...

You would be amazed. it's amazing, amazing stuff. >> yeah. >> glenn: david, go ahead. >> i asked if our founding fathers were alive today, and they were regular citizens how would they react to the action that the government has taken? >> glenn: i have to tell you, this is something i have heard from a -- a great question. from a ton of people there. a lot of people who say they would have been with the torches and the pitchforks and they would have taken this -- wrong. good for you. >> why? >> several things. we were being shot at for five years before we thought of a declaration. >> glenn: w...