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Can i see your firearm, ma'am? >> sounds like it's out of the middle ages. >> this is so blatantly constitutional and as you say, john, a stunt, let's face it. >> i don't know about that. >> requiring? >> i don't have to carry or own a gun. >> i'd be curious to know the legal implications with someone you've mandated to have a weapon. >> legal protections for gun manufacturers it's interesting for them, too. >> not necessarily for someone who has a gun. >> or the law maccers who said you had to have it. >> it is smart because it is a pr message that is sending to washington and president obama...

Now, obama's reversed that. now we have it's gone up, the food stamp program now gone up from 28 million families to 47 million. that's just one of the things that can be reversed, that got news this mess to start with. >> gretchen: but senator, why does it appear -- and obviously the election was a result of it -- why does it appear that president obama wins the pr campaign on this entire discussion? >> well, gretchen, i represent oklahoma. he hasn't won up there. >> gretchen: but he's winning it acrossment country. >> well, i know, he's a very persuasive person. that doesn't mean that as a m...

Are they playing politics with the situation as well? >> reporter: what happened was, everybody is playing politics here. that's what it is. what happened was this all began last week when the democratic leader thought he could just push this through unanimously and jim bunning did surprise them when he objected. and at that point yes, it is absolutely true that the democratic leadership had procedures that they could have used to work around jim bunning. they thought maybe he would back down and did quickly realize kiran, they had as patricia was saying a potent issue. republicans have been o...