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Meeting by an acquaintance but was not told who it was beforehand. we now know the reason don junior went to the meeting is because he was promised research on hillary clinton. that was omitted from the statement. you sit on the judiciary committee, what lens do you see this through? >> of course when donald junior, it was obviously misleading to the say the least. i thing be the president is viewing this as a family problem. pr problem. it's not -- it's serious. it involves a foreign power trying to invade our election process. the it involves the highest level of security when it comes to th...

Far as we know and he really the taking the lead in what kind of message comes out of the white house, right? >> yeah. actually, he is going to be spokesperson in chief. you'll see him in a lot of the sunday shows. he'll be out there. but i think the real issue is not the pr problem. we often put a lot of the issues with the president on the pr bucket when we really should see one of the things coming out. we just saw in a bloomberg article the president's new attorney that -- mr. dao that came out and said that there are some things, some transactions that robert mueller is looking at that ar...

Kremlin ties. and crossing legal lines. it's not just a pr problem or tweets. these transactions are so concerning, and that's what we really should focus on, not -- it's almost like putting lipstick on a pig when we talk about who's his press person. >> so sarah huckabee sanders will still be the one taking on the questions, answering them, setting a type of tone in the pressroom. so, john, do you see that the way in which anthony scaramucci will be making his mark is how that message is sent? not necessarily the message that's coming directly from the president but really the message that ma...

Relationships between the white house and the trump organization, of which donald junior is supposedly the head now with his brother, and the dealings of the trump campaign with russia and of the trump organization with russia. and so this whole tangled web, which could go in a lot of directions, is going to come under the scrutiny of the fbi and the justice department. >> yeah, convoluted to say the least. just listening to you there, it's like wow. donald trump jr. made this big fuss as you know about releasing what he said was the full story. we now know it was not. did he think people woul...

Statements where he was reflecting, did come to play in both the impeachment proceeding and in some of the criminal trials. so, these things can have implications when they make public statements. so that's why the lawyers will tell them to zip it and don't talk about it. >> meantime, devlin, you are reporting about the challenges facing trump's legal team and dealing with the president, specifically, when it comes to the russia investigation. lay it out for us. >> right. well, the president is a very tricky legal client. that may actually be an understatement. he doesn't really take legal adv...