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Pass and they're trying to find out where they find promises for carve-outs for rural districts and help seniors where they'd be hard hit by a spike in premium prices. that kind of wheeling and dealing sometimes can get you across the finishing lines and sometimes as chris mentioned can embolden people to say it's too dangerous and making promises of changes on the senate side. it's not going to happen, i'm going to vote no because it's a loser. >> shannon: guy, what about the optic. we know the president is a negotiator and what he does and said would be his strength in washington. he holds h...

About anything, but i will say in this case, the approach he took was just dumb founding to about anybody unless they were in a teachers union just judging from the response in twitter. he doesn't have a lot of allies in the case it was presented but he did say in the article yesterday "the times" picked this up, willie, that he could of -- could have done a better job on the pr side of it. >> yeah. >> the one thing i was taken by bill de blasio, he certainly has been painted as a raging ideologue but everybody say meet the guy. he is very nice and very likal and has a winning personality. thi...

Exactly how powerful that organization is, and the question is can it mobilize them to worry about their own election in 2014, answer some of those citizens' demands and actually move them to compromise? i think that's what the president's goal is. jenna: let's go bigger then. what do you think this says about the state of american leadership in the country. not just the actions of the president and his strategy but also the actions of the republicans. >> it's really a problem right now. and i think it's a bigger problem because within the republican party, and the reason is, it's not -- it's ...