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And human services for an update on how many of these children have been reunited. they have a court order now that instructs the administration to do two separate things. young children have to be reunited with their parents very quickly. older children with a little more time. it's not even clear the administration has the resources to do that. >> right. what i make of it is it's been a couple of very bad weeks for them on the pr standpoint on this. they had to backtrack on their policy. and so the president went back on not prosecuting people that have crossed the border. he is saying if yo...

Presidents have done it. giuliani and he are laying the groundwork to make the pardon seem kind of like a normal thing that many presidents do. giuliani is coming at it more from a pr standpoint as opposed to a legal standpoint. >> as we say the president criticized that decision by the judge to revoke paul manafort's bail. however in, a surprise q & a earlier this morning, trump tried to distance himself from his now incarcerated former campaign chairman. >> i think a lot of it is very unfair. i look at some of them where they go back 12 years. manafort has nothing to do with our campaign. i ...

Information works. who can do it, who can't. much appreciated, sir. thank you very much. let's bring in an people, princeton professor eddie -- and editor of commentary magazine and contributing editor of the [ inaudible ] new york columnist. congratulation, you have more titles than anybody. >> it's amazing. >> the justice of the peace of a small town. >> there you go, caitlin, i'll admit, this for me rings much to do about nothing. but jeremy says it's painting a picture of this hamstrings jared, what say you? >> well, jeremy laid out the actual implications of this. right. what would be the...

Plays from the pr standpoint, but the morality of it. the actual ethical nature of staking out ground like this and not sensitive to the issues of the accused. that is why you see the matters drag on as long as they do. they stake out ground that is outrageous. it takes a long time to walk it back. >> i think his knee jerk reaction is to be a con trkocon. no matter what it is, the president zigs when everybody else zags. we should not condemn it. he says there are good people on both sides. that is the way he is. sometimes that could be a lot of what is going on here. let's talk about the budg...

The bottom line is he never should have been put in this position in the first place. we can all agree, even though we're operating on a lot of hypotheticals, we don't know who knew what when in this whole horrible scandal, but his leadership in the white house, particularly general kelly, should have never put him in in position. he should have never had to make this statement in the first place. i do think he missed some points in his continued tweets, he misses the point that he should be acknowledging victims and alleged victims. i don't know what he believes in his heart of hearts. from a...