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More of this happening. i hope in the months ahead. otherwise we risk this legal strategy, which was really a pr strategy becoming more of the norm in the future. and we can't have that if we have a safe and secure democracy. >> the state of michigan was one of the defendants that they were suing, which in effect means that you were one of the defendants. and i'm imagining if there is a trump follower who is elected secretary of state in michigan in the future, and this kind of lawsuit came up, would that trump secretary of state simply not fight it? like just let them have their way? >> it's ...

Penalties. civil judgment of 25 million dollar judgment in charlottesville, and now this hundred 87,000 dollar attorney fees basically fine against these lawyers, for bringing one of these crazy, frivolous donald trump type challenges of the election. >> well yes, thanks, first, lawrence for having me. i really appreciate you guys shining these light on is very real threat to democracy. they sent a very important message if you blatantly misuse your authority, and abuse the legal system to manipulate the public into thinking that our elections are anything but safe and secure, you will face co...

With trump. and now it's like doom, but everybody's just pretending. >> it's not our fault. everything that goes wrong instead of focusing on fixing it , they focus on the pr strategy of why it's not their fault. >> hunters hunter's art sells a a premium even though it should

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-- like folks like mccarthy as to what seems to be a ballooning problem for them. what is the strategy behind mccarthy doing this? there is obviously this consensus amongst the three of you that they are trying to hide something. that mccarthy along other republicans are trying to hide something. but what is the strategy? is it a pr strategy because they know the timing of the findings of this investigation could come before the midterms and they want to look like they have been selling this thing from the get-go from this their supporters? >> mccarthy asked two things he has to do. when he ha...