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President of the american forum for american islamic democracy. doctor, there's the conversation over these hearings has gone in several different directions, but one different question for you, have we arrived at this moment because we have failed to capture and kill osama bin laden? >> no, i don't necessarily think bin laden is the reason. if you look, we've arrived at this moment because 9/11 was committed by foreign agents on our soil. since 9/11 now, we've seen an exponential increase in home grown terror from muslims that have been raise d and grew up here that became radicalized against...

Anywhere else. >> reporter: they took your brother? did you find your brother? this man's brother is among the missing. his home was also set ablaze. now, having fled the town where he was born and raise d, he say he only finds solace in his music. >> thelma gutierrez joining me now from los angeles. a beautiful song. i know you mentioned thousands of people, whole families who flee the juarez valley. how many people have been chased out of their homes, thelma? >> brooke, this town used to have maybe 10,000 people who lived there. there were factories, businesses. it was a vibrant place. now, ...