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end up with a new kachb date? let's bring in one of the 20 rebellious republicans, chip roy of texas, a member of the house freedom caucus nominated jim jordan for the speaker ership the third ballot. congressman roy, thanks for joining us. you've been vocal about the opposition to mccarthy to be speaker and nominated jim jordan this time round and voted for biron donaldson. you seem different from some of your rebels, though, that you seem actually focussed on a set of pri of principles and rule sets. do you agree with that assessment or no? >> first of all, thanks for having me on....

There are other candidates other than jim jordan or kevin mccarthy to come. >> do you have any thoughts? >> i think steve scalise is a possibility. i think there are some dark horgs candidates that we've heard names floated in the conference that could still come out. >> i defy you to find another news network where the same show quotes tin cup and hill lel. i think it's possible there's a dark horse. we have seen that. we haven't seen it play out on the floor, but pre floor when newt gingrich was ousted and they were looking for a consensus candidate. >> turns out he was a child molester, but...

Disaffected across this country looking at the swamp saying what is going on while we rack up debt and destroy our country. i'm not here to choose party over the people i represent. i'm here to stand up for the people i represent. even those -- i got a lot of people texting me saying keep going. i got a few going oh my god, you got to cut a deal and get behind mccarthy. this is how the sausage is made and happening in realtime. we're having a real debate with 435 people on the floor of the house. oh my gosh. >> all right. congressman chip roy republican of texas one of the 20 rebels voting aga...

Want something that they could count on, something that they cannot just take back home but know that the american people will have a solid understanding they will achieve the things that are important to our party but also these 19 people. so i think that is why we're in adjournment. i think that is the conversation that will take place tonight and then it's to be seen what happens. >> allies of gop leader mccarthy say he has done almost everything he could give the rebels, changing the rules, making it easier to get rid of the speaker with a motion to vacate on the floor, making it easier to...

Republican party is. >> yeah, i think the republican mccarthy, nothing he has done has strengthened his hand so this idea if they adjourn or not, that he's all of a sudden going to become everybody's favorite and get to the 218. it just doesn't really make any sense. i mean, these folks are digging in. they seem to be digging in harder. democrats are getting happier as this goes along. so the calculous isn't working for them. >> a question, if democrats start leaving the floor and they're not voting, that lowers the threshold which in theory could help mccarthy accept, you knyou know, sitting ...