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This issue? i am thankful that the president is making a senate impact here. steve: your problem is the fact that this person who was in this country illegally was driving without a license, right? >> that's correct. and my problem is also that this is only a two-year sentence. when you look at what happened to this woman, she lost both of her children, she lost her husband, and the remedy is really a two-year sentence? steve: i understand you told one of our producers over the weekend during the pre-interview that to you it feels like the court has more empathy for an illegal alien than they ...

But they look amazing together. let's put them into a group and see how they get on." and that was it. we decided to put you both through, together-- ( audience screaming ) - this was not planned out. - absolutely not. harvey: one of the biggest groups ever, just an accident because there weren't enough spots. simon: there weren't enough spots. what-- what is it you're seeing that other people don't see? susan boyle was an example to me of what an idiot i could be, because i judged that girl, along with the audience. when she walked on stage on "got talent," i'm muttering to the person next to...

But they look amazing together. let's put them into a group and see how they get on." and that was it. we decided to put you both through, together-- ( audience screaming ) - this was not planned out. - absolutely not. harvey: one of the biggest groups ever, stn accident because there weren't enough spots. simon: there weren't enough spots. what-- what is it you're seeing that other people don't see? susan boyle was an example to me of what an idiot i could be, because i judged that girl, along with the audience. when she walked on stage on "got talent," i'm muttering to the person next to me,...

Lashes out at the people he thinks he's angry at. and you know he's out of the white house now, so he's no longer in the inner circle. and you know that it's odd that trump is never attacking him, and yet he attacks practically everybody else in washington. so you take all that information and you bring a witness into the grand jury -- or you bring a witness into the pre-interview, and you make a decision. when they give you a statement, you decide, based on all the documents that they have gotten through the subpoenas, and all the other interviews that you've done, you decide, do i want to pu...

Pre-interview? >> yes. not only that, you can learn some things. there also is an oath involved probably. you can also be in contempt of congress if you don't cooperate. there are all kinds of ways that there are repercussions that can be brought upon the witnesses. they can be brought into public session, and i would hope and expect that they would be after these private sessions. but more important than that, they too have rights. they have fifth amendment rights. it's understandable they might want to avoid a public glare, at least until they've had an opportunity to say to the members of c...