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When i talked to him, he said when the consumer is not spending and business isn't investing, the government's got to pick up the load to do that. he did that big stimulus bill. why are we still facing 9% unemployment? that's what most people ask it. >> he did a big stimulus bill, by the summer of 2009 he realized it hadn't worked. it wasn't enough. then they got into a swirl, lots of re-litigation. larry says division aggregate demand, not enough demand. >> need a bigger demand. >> and then they got into the budget battle. between the deficit hawks and people wanting stimulus. the president c...

He's going to continue to make. most important, we're not going to have this re-litigation, but instead governor romney and many republicans are having an opportunity to offer, what's their vision going forward? how are they going to lower costs, how are we going to continue to increase access? the approach the obama administration and congressional democrats took was the wrong approach. >> to be continued. kevin madden. the game starts. >> you can imagine it will be continuing. >> yes. good to see you. and coming up next, civil liberties groups expressing their deep concern over peter king's ...