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I wouldn't expect any action, certainly not before the midterms. they're also very sensitive, doj, to political issues around elections. so i would say we're at least a few months away from any possible charges based on this, for sure. >> i suspect you're right. anthony, how difficult and truly unprecedented is this situation, the situation right now? a former president of the united states, how unprecedented is it for fbi agents to be dealing with something like this, searching and investigating a former president at his home? >> well, yeah, you're absolutely right. it certainly is unpreceden...

Potentially be dangerous, either for our democracy or the way that things were going for the 6th. pretty much the way that the white house was handling the post-election period, he felt that there could be dangerous repercussions. in terms of precedent set for elections, for our democracy, for the 6th. hoping that we would concede. >> so, for me, neal, the most interesting thing she says there is that mr. ratcliffe didn't want anything to do with the post-election period. for me, that pushes the national security concerns about donald trump's conduct back to november. do you want to know what ...

Be dangerous, either for our democracy or the way things are going for the six. >> when you say it was not something the white house -- with do you mean? >> the fine and fight the results of the election, find missing ballots, filing lawsuits in certain states, and reaching out to state legislators about what -- that was pretty much the way that they handled the postelection period. they felt dangerous repercussions in terms of precedent set for elections for our democracy.

Felt there could be dangerous repercussions in terms of precedent set for elections, for democracy for the 6th. >> as a former director of national intelligence yourself, what do you make of this warning about a sitting president, director? >> well, i think if the statement implies a dangerous precedent for future elections, he was right. and if i understood the quote -- and i think this is something we're going to have to worry about every election particularly presidential elections. and so this is one case where i completely agree with dni ratcliffe if that's what he was doing was warning o...

>> pretty important yet basic stuff, right, when you take an oath to the constitution. you knew flynn when he was on active duty. is this the person you knew, director? >> well, it's as though he's a different person. this -- this is yet another example of mike flynn -- this is not the mike flynn i knew in 2014 and earlier. this is a completely different person in my opinion. >> director, cassidy hutchinson testified yesterday about a conversation she had with the then-director of national intelligence jon ratcliffe, days before january 6th. listen to this. >> the way the white house was handl...