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Just care about the people of west virginia, or is it a deep belief this is the wrong bill? by the time we see whether or not the john lewis bill gets filibustered, i think it will -- >> manchin says he does support the john lewis voting rights act. >> exactly. that's going to bring back the voting rights act expanded across the country, this idea that the doj has to sign off on preclearance to make sure it doesn't affect minorities and people -- does not affect voting negatively. so i get joe manchin supports that. it's a good bill. i just know that it will not get 60 votes to move forward fo...

We could get legislation through the senate that protects american voters? >> well first of all, thank you very much for having me this morning. look, i think that hr-1 is very, very clear, it is been sent to the senate, senate has now presented it as s-1 and i have met with various senators including senator manchin and i said time and time again that hr-4 is a -- and since there are 47 states that have now proposed legislation that could suppress the vote, we need to pass hr-1 with the preclearance that is in hr-4, apply for the states and move forward to an up or down vote. i read senator m...

Core issues on democracy, right? there's no real deal that's going to be struck on h.r.1 or 4, right? that's for the people. but that, maybe, there is a place for a narrower deal. and i should say that joe manchin and lisa murkowski wrote that letter to their senate colleagues saying let's restore part of the voting rights about the john roberts' court struck down for no reason other than their own whim, essentially. but i just don't see ten votes for that in republicans. i feel like i am losing my mind. maybe, i'm wrong but you worked with these people. you were in the u.s. senate. what incen...

Narrower bill. the idea that states would have to go through the justice department and have the federal government approve changes to their voting situations in those states. i tried to follow up with him there, and you can hear manchin kind of cutting off my questions. he doesn't like going into the specifics of this. pre-clearance, if you brought that back now, wouldn't help people in georgia or florida or potentially texas which may very well pass its restrictive voting rights legislation in the next few weeks. he wants to see any changes in the voting systems in this country be done on a ...

That's for the people. maybe there's a place for a more narrow deal. i should say joe manchin and lisa murkowski wrote that letter to the colleague saying let's restore the voting rights act john roberts court struck down for no reason other than their own win, essentially. thei>> i don't see ten votes frm that for republicans. you have the summer kelsey. it's like i feel like i'm losing my mind. maybe i'm wrong, but you work with these people in the u.s. senate. what incentive do they have to restore the voting rights act to create safeguards against their comrades in the states or making the...